作為建筑師和城市規(guī)劃師,我們可以為那些苦苦掙扎的人做些事情 | UIA-霍普杯2023 評委會主席卡羅琳·博斯專訪
2023-12-06 10:20:53

卡羅琳·博斯——
作為建筑師和城市規(guī)劃師,我們可以為那些苦苦掙扎的人做些事情
Caroline Bos –
In our profession as architects and urban designers, we can do something to help people who are struggling
心理健康是一個大問題,涉及到許多方面。我們作為建筑師和城市規(guī)劃師也可以做出積極的貢獻,這正是我所希望的。
It is a big problem,and there are many different aspects to it. I'm saying that in our profession, as architects and urban designers, we can also contribute in a positive way, that's what I'm hoping for.
「采訪手記」
Interview Notes
作為UNStudio聯(lián)合創(chuàng)始人、主持城市規(guī)劃師,卡羅琳·博斯女士今年應(yīng)邀成為UIA-霍普杯2023 評委會主席。在南京大學(xué)舉辦《為情緒韌勁而設(shè)計:未來健康城市》講座之后,卡羅琳女士接受了霍普股份的專訪。此次采訪,卡羅琳女士的溫和與睿智給我們留下深刻的印象,她也從更個人的角度,談到為何提出今年競賽的主題“至美而生——在高密度城市蔓延中為心理健康而設(shè)計”。對于當(dāng)前人們面臨的各種壓力,卡羅琳女士也真誠地建議“可以退后一步來尋找另一種生活方式”。
Ms. Caroline Bos is the co-founder of UNStudio and principal urban planner. This year, she was invited to serve as the chair of the jury for the UIA-HYP Cup 2023. Following her lecture on "Designing for Emotional Resilience: Healthy Future Cities" at Nanjing University, Ms. Bos graciously agreed to an interview with the Brand Strategy and other Departments of HYP-ARCH. During the interview, Ms. Bos's gentleness and wisdom left a profound impression on us. She also spoke from a more personal perspective about the reason behind proposing this year's competition theme "Living Your Best Life: Designing for Mental Health In High Density Sprawl". Addressing the various pressures people currently face, Ms. Bos sincerely advised "they can take a step back in order to find another way".
卡羅琳女士在南京大學(xué)舉辦講座?黃偉婷
Ms. Caroline gave a lecture at Nanjing University
Q:為什么您今年提出了“為心理健康而設(shè)計”的主題?
Why did you propose the theme of designing for mental health this year?
A:我想每個人身邊都有曾經(jīng)或正在與心理健康問題作斗爭的人。我也有兩個親近的朋友都曾在醫(yī)院接受精神疾病治療。因此,我親眼目睹了他們的痛苦。這兩位女性并非年輕人,與我年齡相仿,但還是讓我感到非常意外。但我也知道一些年輕人深受這些問題的困擾,所以我認(rèn)為這是每個人生活的一部分。正因如此,出于我自身的興趣,我開始閱讀相關(guān)內(nèi)容。
I think everyone knows people close to them who have struggled or are struggling with mental health issues. I also have two close friends who have both had to receive psychiatric care in hospital. So I have seen the suffering close up. Neither of these women are young people, they are closer to my age, but still it was very unexpected. But I also know young people who suffer from these issues, so I think it's part of everyone's life. And it was because of this that I started reading about it, out of personal interest.
心理健康不同于其他任何疾病。當(dāng)人們面臨心理問題時,往往感到孤立,很難與他人分享,保持聯(lián)系也很困難。困難程度會不斷加深。
It's not like any other illness. When people are suffering from mental problems, they become isolated and it's difficult for them to share, to keep in touch. It becomes really very difficult.
墨爾本南岸綜合體項目 STH BNK by Beulah Melbourne ?Norm Li
Q:您對年輕人中“躺平”現(xiàn)象的看法是什么?
What's your perspective on the current trend of 'lying down' among young people?
A:這不僅僅是在中國,全世界都有這個現(xiàn)象。我讀到了一篇關(guān)于年輕人回鄉(xiāng)潮的報道,這也可以被看作是一種重新調(diào)整。也許因為人們在事業(yè)上承受著過多的壓力。所以如果壓力過大,他們可以花一些時間,退后一步來尋找另一種方式,而不是一味地追求最高的薪水和最高職位。這樣一來就有了更多的平衡,他們會感到快樂。所以做出這樣的轉(zhuǎn)變是有積極作用的。
It’s not only in China, it’s all over the world. I read a story about the phenomenon of young adults going back to the family, and that it could be also seen as a sort of a reset. That perhaps people are being pushed too hard on the career front. So then, if there is too much pressure, they can take some time and take a step back in order to find another way that is not so focused on having the highest salary and the top job. With a little bit more balance they can be happy, so making a switch like that can be very positive.
心理健康是一個大問題,涉及到許多方面。我覺得我們作為建筑師和城市規(guī)劃師也能夠負(fù)一些責(zé)任,做一些事情。并不是說我們能馬上解決所有問題,我們沒有那樣的能力。但是我們也可以做出積極的貢獻,這就是我所希望的。
But it is a big problem, and there are many different aspects to it. I'm saying that in our profession, as architects and urban designers, we can also take some responsibility, also do something. Not that we can suddenly solve all the problems, not at all. But we can also contribute in a positive way, that's what I'm hoping for.
南京嘉華G72綜合發(fā)展項目 K.Wah G72 Mixed-use development ?UNStudio
很多人的日常生活都很平淡。如果有更多的娛樂消遣,那會讓人們的生活更加多姿多彩,情感更加豐富飽滿,而不是被迫只追求一個目標(biāo)。作為建筑師,我們可以在這方面有所作為。正如我們?yōu)閮和O(shè)計空間以促進他們的成長。而在最近幾年,人們還發(fā)現(xiàn),例如,通過重現(xiàn)40年前他們生活的環(huán)境,阿爾茨海默病患者可以得到極大的幫助。因此建成環(huán)境絕對在提升心理健康方面發(fā)揮著巨大作用,但是主流建筑學(xué)界對它的探索還很欠缺。
Many people live in a very humdrum environment in their daily lives. But it would be good to have more recreational pastimes, so that people can lead more colourful and emotional lives, rather than being forced to pursue only one goal. As architects we can make a difference in this area. As we design spaces for children in ways that stimulate their development. In recent years, it has also been found that, for instance, patients with Alzheimer disease can be enormously helped by having environments that recreate their world 40 years ago. So the built environment definitely plays a huge role in supporting mental health. But it is very under-explored by mainstream architecture.
綠色英里 Green Mile ?Plomp
Brainport智慧街區(qū) Brainport Smart District ?PlompQ:在您看來,一個成功設(shè)計的最重要核心是什么?
in your view, what is the most important core of a successful design?
A:我認(rèn)為我們討論的是一個非常全面的問題。可持續(xù)性是一個目標(biāo),建筑的性能如何為人服務(wù)是一個目標(biāo),體驗也是一個目標(biāo),然后將所有這些真正融合成一個令人信服的解決方案。因此,你需要的是整體性。如果你試圖最大化某一方面,就會以另一方面為代價,所以這是不可行的,你必須進行綜合考慮。
I think we're talking about a very holistic thing. Sustainability is a goal, how the building performs for people is a goal, the experience is a goal, and then really blending all of that into a compelling solution. So what you need is that wholeness. If you try to maximize one aspect, it comes at the cost of another, so it's not viable, and you have to think holistically.
代爾夫特理工大學(xué)Echo教學(xué)樓 Echo, TU Delft ?Evabloem
Q:在競賽參賽作品中,您最看重哪些方面?
What aspects do you value the most in the entries for the competition?
A:這次的參賽作品非常多樣化。我試著去理解各種不同類型的解決方案或提案,并對它們進行分類,然后尋找我認(rèn)為在每個類別中都很突出的案例。我很高興看到范圍如此廣泛。我不想說某一種方法或解決方案最好,因為多樣性很重要。有一些作品表現(xiàn)出真正的同理心,展現(xiàn)了富有想象力的積極形象,我就不具體點名了,這對其他作品不公平。
The entries this time were very diverse. I tried to make sense of all the different types of solutions or proposals and categorize them and then look for examples that I thought were very good in each category. I was pleased to see such a wide range. I don't want to say that one approach or solution is best, I think diversity is important. There were some entries that showed real empathy and presented imaginative and positive images, but I don't want to name names because that would be unfair to other entries.
我認(rèn)為同理心是非常重要的。真正的同理心思考的不僅僅是自己,還有其他群體。敏感性和創(chuàng)造力也很重要。
I think empathy is very important. True empathy goes beyond themself and considers other groups. Sensitivity and creativity are also important.

2023霍普杯一等獎作品《光的日?!?/p>
UIA-HYP Cup 2023 First Prize "The daily routine of the light"
Q:您如何看待人工智能設(shè)計?
How do you view AI design?
A:我們利用所有可能的技術(shù),努力使我們的設(shè)計變得更好。應(yīng)用對自己有利的技術(shù)是一件正向的事情,也是值得做的。
We use all possible techniques to try and make our designs better. Adopting and using new techniques that work in your favour is good and worth doing.
我認(rèn)為人工智能將成為幫助人們提高工作效率的工具,而這些工具也將不斷完善。但在UNStudio,我們更傾向于使用我們自己的人工智能工具。我們避免使用其他來源的工具,因為需要保持一定的可控性。
I think AI is going to be a tool that helps people work more efficiently, and these tools are only going to get better. But we prefer to use our own AI tools at UNStudio. We avoid using other sources because we need to maintain some sense of control.
Q:對于有志從事建筑設(shè)計職業(yè)的學(xué)生,您有什么建議,尤其是在規(guī)劃他們自己的職業(yè)道路方面?
What advice do you have for students aspiring to pursue a career in architectural design, in terms of planning their own career paths?
A:我認(rèn)為對我們來說,擁有一個在世界各地開展大量項目的大型工作室是件好事,有些建筑師則喜歡專注于一個項目。這其實是因人而異的。你必須了解自己,了解什么適合你。但我想說的是,始終保持興趣,以積極和樂觀的態(tài)度看待事物。我認(rèn)為建筑師必須是樂觀的,極其樂觀。
I think that for us it's nice to have a big studio with a lot of projects all over the world, but some architects like to work multiple projects at the same time, while others prefer to work on just one. It really depends on the individual. You have to know yourself and what works for you. But I would say Always stay interested and look at things in a positive and optimistic way. I think architects have to be optimistic, very optimistic.
感謝UNStudio對本文提供的幫助。
We are grateful to UNStudio for their help with this interview.
